Saturday, February 18, 2023

Don't book dummy air tickets for visa purpose

We Indians need visa to visit most of the countries in the world. Almost all visa applications mandatorily need a return flight ticket, which is a primary assurance that we will return to our home country after the trip. But many hesitate to buy real tickets before getting visa, for the fear of losing ticket money in case of visa rejection.

To capitalize on this, many websites have come up which issue fake airline tickets for a small fee. These dummy tickets can be used for visa application and then you buy real ticket after getting visa.

But I feel this is a bad idea. Watch this video to understand why [Watch on youtube]

Below is why I feel buying dummy tickets for visa purpose is a bad idea.

1. Ticket prices go up closer to travel date. 

If you spot a cheap ticket 6 or 9 months in advance and you've a fair probability of getting visa and traveling, you should consider booking that ticket.

I booked a return ticket Mumbai to Busan (South Korea) in Feb 2023 for travel in October 2023 for 30k

If I book a dummy ticket for visa and I am to buy a new ticket sometime in August/September, the price would have gone up to 60-70k, so I would have lost 30-40k anyway. So I am taking a chance and booking real ticket 9 months in advance with a hope that I will get visa.

My Mumbai- Paris return ticket was 38k- for travel in Feb 2023, booked in June 2022. Schengen visa process starts max 3 months in advance. If I wait till Jan 2023 for real tickets, it would have cost my 70k

So given the guaranteed price increase closer to travel date, if you see a ticket at a tempting rate, better take a chance and book it, even if there is a small risk of losing that money if visa is rejected

2. Authorities can find out and reject your visa.

Visa issuing authorities are aware of websites selling dummy tickets. If they suspect your ticket is fake and they can't confirm it with airline or other sources, your visa application may be rejected.

3. Shows lack of trust- in yourself and in embassy

Visa should never be applied with mind set that "if you give visa I will travel". It should be applied with mindset "I want to travel, I've made all the arrangements and committed to this trip, please give me visa"

If you are going for dummy tickets it means you are not confident of getting a visa, you don't trust embassy to give you a visa. 

4. Dummy ticket could be fake:

Some dummy ticket sites work with airlines to create a real PNR/ticket number and hold the price for certain time, but many dummy ticket sites simply create a fake ticket that can't be verified on airline website. Submitting fake documents could result in you being blacklisted from applying to that country again.

So what to do? Should we risk losing lots of money?

Option 1: Ensure you are visa worthy and you have fair chance of getting visa before planning a trip.

If your passport is empty, if you don't have enough funds, if you don't have a job, don't rush to travel to Europe, UK or USA. Rejection rate will be high. Build up your travel profile, travel to countries that give visa on arrival or e-visa, accumulate your savings, get a job and apply when you have fair confidence that you will get a visa.

Option 2: Assess the risk of losing current ticket price vs extra you've to pay for last minute ticket

You can book real airline tickets that are refundable, but flexible tickets usually cost several k more than cheapest, non refundable tickets.

If ticket price is very low now and is almost guaranteed to increase, you can probably take a chance and book.

Option 3: You can also work with your travel agents- travel agents can hold a price for longer, joining a popular package tour increases your chance of getting a visa

Lufthansa gives full refund in case of VISA reject 

Related: 2023 Schengen visa process


Saturday, February 11, 2023

What's latest on VietjetAir India operations?

Vietjet Air launched India operations in 2022 and flew lakhs of Indians to Vietnam thanks to their cheap tickets (11k INR onwards for return ticket)

I did a trip from Mumbai to Phu Quoc in September 2022 and the trip went well. However soon after that VietJetAir was in news for suspending operations from Hyderabad and Bengaluru. Apparently they had sold thousands of tickets before getting required permission to operate the flights.

Some of my friends who had booked on Hyd/Blr cancelled flights got some refund, while I still see many complaints on twitter about people not getting their money back.

However, VietJetAir has not given up on India operations. They are advertising heavily on youtube, FB etc trying to win Indian customers.

I spent some time on VietJetAir website to understand for what all destinations they are accepting bookings. Below are my findings

#

From

To

Normal Return Fare

Remarks

1

Mumbai

Saigon (HCMC)

350 USD/29k INR


2

Mumbai

Da Nang

Suspended


3

Mumbai

Phu Quoc

Suspended


4

Mumbai

Singapore

360 USD/30k INR


5

Mumbai

Busan (South Korea)

404 USD/34k INR


6

Mumbai 

Bali

380 USD


7

Ahmedabad

Saigon

Suspended


8

Ahmedabad

Hanoi

Suspended


9

Ahmedabad

Da Nang

Suspended


10

Delhi

Da Nang

230 USD / 19k INR


11

Delhi

Hanoi

320 USD


12

Delhi

Bali

360 USD


13

Delhi

Taipei

650 USD


1. The once popular 9 rupee ticket is now gone. Minimum one way ticket costs around 50 USD+ tax, round trip tickets costing onwards of 19000 INR. Their price advantage is clearly lost. At 20-25k return we have many other options such as Indigo, AirAsia, Scoot, Thai Smile and more...

2. VietJet seem to have suspended flights from Ahmedabad. Couldn't see a single ticket for various date and destination combinations I checked

3. Vietjet has reduced frequency. Earlier there were 3 flights between Delhi/Mumbai to Saigon, Hanoi etc, now I see one flight per week

4. Phu Quoc flights seem to have been cancelled, so is Da Nang from Mumbai. Only Saigon and Hanoi flights are largely operational

5. Vietjet Air seem to be trying their luck selling one stop tickets to Singapore, Bali etc. However without a clear price advantage and concerns on their reliability, sales will be tough as Indians have several other options- Indigo, Air Asia, Scoot etc.

6. VietJet India customer care is still not clear. They have a twitter handle with just 6000 followers and they won't reply to concerns from passengers.

7. Vietjet Air print ad was still showing Bengaluru & Hyd.. Recently they've removed it from print, but youtube ads still show them (video editing is more complex!)

I wanted to plan another trip to Vietnam- Da Nang but VietJetAir's unreliability is keeping me on hold.  Phu Quoc, Hanoi and Saigon I've already visited. I will watch them for another 6 months and see how the bikini airline sustains its India operations.

In my personal opinion instead of rapid expansion Vietjet should have stuck to 2-3 cities in India, fly properly, win trust of Indian travelers and then expand. They expanded rapidly but unable to maintain service levels, so hard to trust their reliability at the moment.

I could have booked Mumbai-Busan (South Korea) on Vietjet Air, but I found Singapore Airline is a better deal- even if a bit expensive, ticket includes checked bags, meals, entertainment, transit via Changi etc.

Will keep an eye on VietJetAir's India operations to see if I can book a ticket on them to Taipei and few other destinations I have in mind...

Do you have an upcoming flight with VietJetAir

Also read: my Vietnam travel guide